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Post  peno Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:12 am

Points sound good. But how are you going to figure out how many points to give for offense and defense? What about having five top leaders and under each leader you have sub leaders for different projects, which each project haveing a team? just something to think about.
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Post  Adaven Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:08 am

This is been kind of the model I have been thinking about.

The leadership ranks would be voted in by all members. Then the remaining team members would follow into one of the three different sub-catagories(non leadership).
1. Military/Intelligence Division
(a). Air Marshall = Military Leader + (1) Air Marshall Jr. = Black ops/Intell director
(b). Non Leadership Team members
2. Colonization/expansion/Recruitment
(a). Terra Marshall = Colonization Leader +(1) Prime Minister = Recruitment Leader
(b). Non Leadership Team members
3. Training/Research Division
(a).Training Officer = Training Leader +(1) Research/development Officer = R/D Director
(b). Non Leadership Team members


Ranks: Non Leadership
(0-200) Enlistee
(201-300) Ensign
(301-500) 2nd Lieutenant
(501-800)1st Lieutenant
(801-1200) Captain
(1201-1600) Major
(1601-2100) Lt. Commander
(2101-2600) Commander
(2601-3200) Lt. Colonel
(3201-4000) Colonel
(4001-6000) Rear Admiral
(6001- ) Vice Admiral

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Post  Xon Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:25 am

To be honest I don't really see a point in a ranking system based on numbers, as those very same numbers are already posted right beside league members in the member list.

What difference does it make whether I'm a captain or just a bloke with some 1000 points? It won't change whether or not people listen to me, and it shouldn't. Rank should be a privilege bestowed upon people that have earned it, to be rewarded with minor command over a few other members over a given sector if necessary.

What such a sector command could achieve is as follows: Me and Peno are quite a ways away from the central systems, but are more or less neighbours. At the moment there is almost no use for either of us due to our distance from our current malevolent benefactor, but were there someone in our area of space we could attack quickly whereas all others would take time. With a form of leadership in our particular area telling us where and when to strike in coordination, we could maximize both efficiency and damage done.

In conclusion, rank should be based on leadership ability, not on happy numbers that we all get over time.

Tutankhamen head. farao
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Post  Xon Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:39 am

You know I think that's the second time I've used 'quite a ways away' on this forum. Not bad considering I've never used it before now. Shocked
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Post  Wing029 Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:06 am

i agree. number is nothing. someone with 1500 points could deserve more a rank than someone with 4000.
i think number just put thing more like the others leagues and its kinda childish.. in my opinion.. sorry i cant express myself better.. my main language is french

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Post  peno Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:43 am

ok we drop the points and go with leadership, say we set up certain milestones have to be completed and go on a personal record or something to keep track of. When a person reaches that milestone they can sumit for a promtion. that way the ones who complete deeds get a chance to see if they can keep rising in rank or stay there, or if something happens lose their rank to someone more suited for leadership.
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Post  Dicomamouk Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:10 am

I like Peno's point. After getting to a certain point or milestone you can apply for a position. Then a vote by the other members will secure the position.

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Post  Xon Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:34 pm

T'essai, Wing029, puis c'est ça qui conte.
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Post  Wing029 Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:10 pm

bah ouais j'essai.. but i think i'm not that bad:)

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Post  Xon Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:17 pm

Not at all, mate. Moi aussi je viens du Québec, though I think we'll make the Americans angry if we go off topic in a different language. =)
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Post  Wing029 Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:20 pm

where in québec do you live?

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Post  Xon Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:25 pm

Montéregie area, that little inoffensive bit south-west of Montreal.
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Post  Wing029 Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:26 pm

me = Sherbrooke

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Post  Xon Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:05 pm

Aye, I noticed your location underneath your name. =P

Otherwise I wouldn't have assumed you were from Quebec.
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Post  Wing029 Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:21 pm

indeed.. lol i have a question. i wonder if interceptor rocket launch themself auto if someone launch a rocket at my planet?

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Post  Adaven Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:13 pm

My understanding is that the interceptor is part of the automatic defence system along with the flak,gauss etc.

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Post  peno Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:09 am

sorry been off for a few days. for the rank system does anyone have any military or leadership background?
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Post  Adaven Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:13 am

[left]I have military background but really do not think it would help in this type of game play. To answer your question though i spent 8 years in the United States Army. I was stationed in Germany as Military Police (1985-1993). I now run a construction company. so i have alot of experience in a leadership role. That would explain why I like not having to be the leader and can just enjoy playing and not having to be in the leadership role, other then the diplomatic duties of being Prime Minister. Very Happy

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Post  Tetrahedron Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:10 am

I have military experience.. still in as a matter of fact, 11 years come august, I am in the air force, and have experience in maintenance and space system operations. Currently an instructor at the school house for space ops in cali, and not exactly here to be in a leadership role, but definitely wouldn't mind helping to plan some immense strat/tac plan if needed Smile Definitely into developing large/massive offensive force and integral intelligence force as well.


For the organization we could keep a "rank" structure based upon the point system, however leadership roles would depend upon different criteria, such as the idea that peno came up with. What would these milestones be, and who would first be in those positions that we create, and who would be the individuals who allowed or granted promotion to the next rank.

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Post  peno Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:31 pm

the leadership role wont be anything extreme like master minding galaxy domanation or anything like that. it would be more of a set guide line to follow so our clan can rise instead of fighting among ourselves. we can make five generals or however many in charge of certain sections like militry, research, resources things like that. then thoses general will make up the milestones that need to be completed, when thoses are done that person that completed the milestone would sumit his request for promotion to his commanding general. the general would look at show it to the other generals for opinion then make a decision.
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Post  communismfairy Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:42 pm

I know I'm really new but in my opinion I think the leadership position should have a high focus on specialization. We could organize it so that the main players of the league each work towards a different goal. So far this would include advanced ships, high espionage level, colonization capability, and large resource production. The majority of players would focus mainly on having massive mining operations (along with a token fleet for harvesting and a large number of AA artillery batteries to defend themeselves from being attacked or raided before the league can defend them) to build up huge stockpiles of resources which they would "trade" to specialists who would serve as a sort of elite in the league. The specialists would use these resources to increase the leagues strength in their specialty without having to worry about resource production. I think this structure, despite leaving little room for advancement or position shifting once implemented, would give us a major advantage over other leagues.

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Post  Adaven Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:09 am

Alright "new guy" just kidding sounds great. We are growing stronger everyday and we will need to implement some sort of league structure soon. I am not sure if and when the new beta version resets(next week) that we all might get reset also back to square one. I hope not. It has taken a lot of time to get where we are now. If for some chance though the game does reset we will need to stay in contact via this board and make sure we all get in the same galaxy and continue the Terra-Nostra domination.( we need to make sure all members are registered and using the forum board. A lot of much information is being given out via the forum and there are still a few members who have never even been to it yet.) So for now I say this gives us a week or so to come up with a league leadership structure, to include those main personnel to be designated to be in the leadership role and then the those Jr leaders below them in each of the main categories and so on. How we do this is up for discussion. It does not have to be all about points. Maybe we will need to have The first annual Terra-Nostra Election Day. where we can hold a league vote for the main leaders. Problem is we may have multiple members that want to be part of the military sector and only 1 or 2 that want to concentrate on resources. It's going to be interesting. I'm sure between all of us we can make this work.

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Post  Adaven Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:31 am

It's official on July 8th we will all reset to beginning Mad Now I wonder if I want to go out in a blaze of glory Wink I hope all will continue being part of Terra-Nostra when we start the new beginning. We have learned a lot and we should be able to use that information to surpass those levels we previously held with greater ease. It will be important for us to communicate here and put ourselves in the best possible strategic locations when we enter the new Imperion version.
As one of the three founders of Terra-Nostra, I will be back to represent in Imperion.
How about you?

~Adaven~

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Post  Xon Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:51 am

With full intent to return in glorious egotistical wonder, The Xon shall rejoin galaxy 2 come reset.
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Post  communismfairy Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:36 am

I am definitey rejoining both imperion (is that what it will be called?) and terra nostra but I'd actually like to make a suggestion. Maybe we should put a few league members in G1 and G3. These members (perhaps lower level expansion leaders?) would attempt to make contact with active terrans and report their findings on the forum so that we could expand terra-nostra into an inter-galactic superpower.

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